Monday, 25 January 2021

People before Profit national Zoom: extracts from 'Fighting for Climate Jobs'

With human climate breakdown now being more apparent with extreme weather, Covid and extinction warnings from David Attenborough, should this now be the time to divert funds from glitz and glam extravagance like HS2 and "bus on rails" tram extensions to replace buses to, instead, Fare-Free Public Transport that I and many others have enjoyed for very many years in the West Midlands region and throughout England when it came to buses?

14:39:26 From  Fliss Premru (CACCTU)  to  Everyone : Solidarity with  the unite member and community saving 350 jobs and establishing a centre of excellence!

14:47:56 From  Pauline Philippe  to  Everyone : I agree trams make more sense in countries where infrastructures has been there historically (e.g. France) - where infrastructure is there, they can be great in connecting some more isolated communities

Solidarity with the unite member and community saving 350 jobs and establishing a centre of excellence!

There was a great survey of North Sea oil workers by Platform - most workers had never heard of a just transition  - and most who answered were keen to look at the possibility of alternative energy jobs including offshore wind.

SERA organising meetings to get Green issues on to Mayoral Elections in May - would be really good to get Climate Hustings and/or  Young peoples Hustings to get this on the agenda

Mark Porter and his members at Rolls Royce Barnoldswick are the first group of workers to get their employer to switch to green jobs. This shows that the fight for Green Jobs comes from below

All Labour Party members need to join SERA to direct it towards being both environmental and socialist!

Mark Porter  to  Everyone : the 'just transition' is the key- investment in new skills, re skilling/ upskilling it requires the investment now ahead of the jobs disappearing.

Peter Dwyer  to  Everyone : Good final point by Martin, lots of work on reskilling and transferring workers from the nuke industry was done many years ago, we can use that type of work as a basis for shifting again.

Tony Staunton  to  Everyone : campaign against climate change TU website: https://www.cacctu.org.uk

Fliss Premru (CACCTU)  to  Everyone : Rolls Royce making ventilators in Bristol!

Fliss Premru (CACCTU)  to  Everyone : If you would like to sign up to our google group here is the form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdDSHCE3fRz3sGuFE74-ZSTYdVboDOda_AN8Rz5zHRP2yiqFg/viewform

Candy Gregory  to  Everyone : Elephant in the room. Animal agriculture, be it factory farms here or wet markets elsewhere are a huge contributor to climate change & a threat to populations due to zoonotic transmission. Everyone has to consider what they can do to reduce their meat & dairy consumption.

Mark Porter  to  Everyone : fliss the centre of excellence is embryonic at present but happy to chat about this offline and provide more details as and when they evolve.

maggie, burnley, unite community  to  Everyone : biofuels need careful scrutiny; not an simple alternative

Debby Cobbett  to  Everyone : Wait for this corrupt government to outsource more to their pals?  How about more bottom-up stuff, like switching to making ventilators and PPE?  Not to mention Lucas Plan?

James Eaden ChesterfieldTUC  to  Everyone : The new edition of the Million Climate Jobs Report is due out soon. Its a great resource that can be used to fuel this discussion. I think local climate groups and trade unions bodies need to look at doing public 'book launch' events. I'm sure that the Campaign Against Climate Change will be able to provide speakers..

15:07:40 From  Suzanne Jeffery  to  Everyone : Thank you Mark and great success at Barnoldswick - just want to flag up the biofuels are not always a green fuel, they can rely on huge land use change driving climate change. Huge investment in public transport is key to transitioning and reducing emissions in transport.

Fliss Premru (CACCTU)  to  Everyone : Here is the One million climate jobs 2014 edition - in the process of being updated. https://www.cacctu.org.uk/sites/data/files/Docs/one_million_climate_jobs_2014.pdf

15:09:08 From  Mark Porter  to  Everyone : Maggie you are correct on biofuels, it needs to be cohesive thought out coordinated policy that does not detract from food production resources and to ensure the production of such does not produce more CO2 than the fossil fuel it is replacing

15:09:43 From  Martin Empson  to  Everyone : A strategy for dealing with climate crisis and environmental disaster must also include jobs/work in mitigating the disaster - for instance we need more fire-fighters not less. More people working in the environmental protection agency etc. This is also an argument that we can use in the context of defending our public services from the austerity measures the Tories will introduce

15:10:07 From  Martin Empson  to  Everyone : Also, Lucinda is spot on, COP26 in November must be a key focus for radical demands about jobs and climate.

15:10:34 From  Suzanne Jeffery  to  Everyone : More on biofuels here https://www.cacctu.org.uk/biofuels

15:11:45 From  Maxine Sadza  to  Everyone : Well said Fliss!

15:11:45 From  Amy L  to  Everyone : Totally agree about COP26 being a focus. The provisional date for a mass mobilisation in Glasgow is Sat 6 Nov …. Covid dependent we want to ensure trade unions are part of the mass mobilisations!

15:11:47 From  Richard Chilvers  to  Everyone : We must use the Lucas Planning template which at the time was not taken  up but was the harbinger and lodestone for the future and Barnoldswick has brought it up to date with workplace active engagment for just trasition  

15:11:59 From  Maxine Sadza  to  Everyone : sorry Heather

15:11:59 From  Gwyn Farleigh  to  Everyone : are fire fighter mandated to attend floods in England? needs resources and funding

15:13:45 From  John Mc Fadden  to  Everyone : Firefighters still don't have a mandatory duty to respond to floods in England

15:13:53 From  Suzanne Jeffery  to  Everyone : See here for Model Motion for unions to mobilise for COP26. We need to strut mobilising across the TU movement now. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qrXsZaia9sGNPlYjBxT2s-hxyJkS2_fQWJ5dLPGpa1E/edit

15:13:56 From  Martin Empson  to  Everyone : The Campaign Against Climate Change's summits round the country in early 2020 showed that the trade union movement, NGOs, environmental groups etc were very keen on seein COP26 as a mobilisation to demand action on Climate Change. COp26 will need to be a mass protest, but also a chance for us to really develop Campaign Against Climate Change networks locally.

15:14:44 From  Richard Chilvers  to  Everyone : new lucas plan website thelucasaerocombineshopstewardscommittee.org

15:15:06 From  Debby Cobbett  to  Everyone : Martin commented about 'defending our public services from the austerity measures the Tories will introduce' and I think we must fight to rebuild public services that have been cut for decades.  Agree with Fliss about green jobs in health, care, education and other public servcies.  See this campaign   https://wbg.org.uk/analysis/creating-a-caring-economy-a-call-to-action-2/

15:16:31 From  Declan Owens (UVW (LSWU) / GMB (GMB4GND / Haldane Society)  to  Everyone : https://www.haldane.org/ ; chair@haldane.org

15:16:44 From  Fliss Premru (CACCTU)  to  Everyone : PCS aviation democracy document -https://365pcs.sharepoint.com/sites/pcsresources/reslib/527-Aviation-climate%20booklet-full%20version.pdf?originalPath=aHR0cHM6Ly8zNjVwY3Muc2hhcmVwb2ludC5jb20vOmI6L3MvcGNzcmVzb3VyY2VzL0VhUnRHd3Y3aDR0THF5bGpDd1BtT2pnQlp5UlJrdUI1dVlUaVpkdjQyS2ZUUUE_cnRpbWU9UTZNejVkYV8yRWc

15:16:50 From  Suzanne Jeffery  to  Everyone : If you want to get involved with CACC TU group sign up here https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdDSHCE3fRz3sGuFE74-ZSTYdVboDOda_AN8Rz5zHRP2yiqFg/viewform

15:16:59 From  Ellen Robottom  to  Everyone : Decarbonising manufacture, transport etc is great, but we can't confine the discussion to ways of repurposing, changing technologies etc - the fact is we also need an overall contraction of production and a greater emphasis on "people work". There seems to be an assumption that workers employed in technological sectors would not be willing to move into care. support, education, health etc. Is this true, or is it mainly about the fact that most of those jobs are very underpaid and often undervalued, often perceived as "female" areas of work too? Has there been any research around whether or to what extent workers might be willing to make that transition if pay and conditions were better. As a matter of equity and social need we should in any case be campaigning for more jobs and better pay in those sectors, and I believe this needs to be tied together with reducing emissions. along with the changes in technologies. This is where we really get to the need for "system change" - (along with public ownership etc)

15:17:32 From  Heather  to  Everyone : respect to the haldane society!

15:17:40 From  Declan Owens (UVW (LSWU) / GMB (GMB4GND / Haldane Society)  to  Everyone : https://twitter.com/gmb4gnd?lang=en

15:17:41 From  Tahir Latif  to  Everyone : quite right Debby, not only is there a need for a million (or more) climate jobs, but we also need to restore the jobs that provide essential public and social services that have been slashed over the last decades.  under those circumstances there can be no excuses for the levels of unemployment and underemployment we currently have.  free market inefficiency needs to go.

15:18:09 From  Declan Owens (UVW (LSWU) / GMB (GMB4GND / Haldane Society)  to  Everyone : https://www.facebook.com/GMB4GND/

15:18:22 From  Maggie Falshaw  to  Everyone : Following the east London climate summit that Josh spoke about, 25 health workers wrote to the mayor of Tower Hamlets demanding that he stops supporting the Silvertown tunnel. The Guardian report is in my post above

15:18:25 From  Debby Cobbett  to  Everyone : I think there's another whole debate around consumerism 

15:19:34 From  Steve Wilkins  to  Everyone : The most effective form of direct action is strike action as Rolls Royce workers have demonstrated

15:20:05 From  Fliss Premru (CACCTU)  to  Everyone : flisspremu@hotmail.com send me info on the campaign!

15:20:19 From  Sarifa.Patel@hotmail.co.uk  to  Everyone : sarifa.patel@hotmail.co.uk

15:20:32 From  Richard Chilvers  to  Everyone : https://thelucasaerocombineshopstewardscommittee.org/

For queries about affiliation, ordering the One Million Climate Jobs report or the work of the wider campaign, contact:

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