Roger Harrabin on 'Today' on 27 April 2020

This morning at 6.35, on the 'Today' programme, Roger Harrabin was interviewed about 'Build Back Better'.  He said, "Plans to tackle climate change are really struggling badly ... long term emission trends are up not down, governments are diverted and cash is being swallowed in by the virus. ... LibDems are saying we now have to bail out airlines."  NO!  Some, like the "economist Nicholas Stern, chair of the Granth am Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment at the London School of Economics (LSE)" - Wikipedia, are wanting to ensure things stay as they are in many ways as the 'new normal', rather than going back to the thoughtless, greedy growth of everything and everyone at any cost that brings eventual ecocide and extinction.