Brutal GAZA scenes worthy of Stalingrad or medieval or ancient warfare

Sideways on Radio 4, 6 Jan 2025:  25 Years of the 21st Century: 1. The Age of Digital Warfare

PANEL of historian and writer Margaret MacMillan, former Chief of the Defence Staff Sir Nick Carter and author, Professor Anthony King.

The invasion of first Afghanistan, understandable and then the invasion of Iraq, lost a lot of moral authority for the West, said Margaret MacMillan.  "A lot of countries in the Global South no longer believed, if they ever did, that the West knows best."

Nick Carter describing the events after 9/11 said that rather than the response being the global war on terror, "it was a political problem that needs to be dealt with in a sympathetic fashion rather than meting out revenge which happened in Afghanistan. ... Western activity in Afghanistan and Iraq alienated much of the world and it didn't solve the problem of terrorism for that is not how you solve the problem of terrorism. ... And it means that the countries we alienated are questionning our Western narrative.

ON GAZA:

Professor Anthony King: "The increased urbanisation of the battlefield.  In the ethno-political wars we have seen and in the inter state wars and in Ukraine. ...  Look at the conditions in Gaza.  What we see is brutal scenes worthy of Stalingrad or worthy of medieval or ancient warfare where soldiers are fighting in ruins, civilians are in dreadful conditions.  That is more the future under AI enabled militaries rather than some beautiful surgical death by precision."

MACMILLAN:

"We have to come to terms with our own mortality as a species.  Climate change is the big existential threat out there.  We don't always behave reasonably and we haven't been behaving reasonably lately but we are capable of looking at adversity when it comes to us and seeing that we have to do something about it."

On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 at 21:44, Tim Weller <timweller1@gmail.com> wrote:

"Gone rogue" is a very good way of putting it.  Very true.  And Israel is our friend, ally, our big arms purchaser especially from the USA and Germany that are important members of NATO.

Google search:-

"Israel, being located in the Levant, is outside the geographical scope of the alliance. While it has had close security cooperation with the US and other Western countries, Israel has not sought formal membership in defense alliances like NATO."

Israel is firmly on our side.  WE have slaughtered over 40,000 Gazans and 6 million Jews in the 1930s/40s.  We have gone rogue since our religion went rogue and immoral in betraying its founder's teaching in 300 CE.  Christendom and Christians have done war, violence, killings ever since.  A disgraceful, despicable, violent world faith!

A Google search has, "As of 2024, there are approximately 292,000 Jewish people in the United Kingdom, making up 0.48% of the population."

"The 2021 census recorded 3.9 million Muslims in the United Kingdom, which is 6.5% of the total population."