Ukraine

Very many thanks, Bob for your expertise, once more and your authoritative posting, here which was so good to read.

I am troubled by, and suspicious of, the overthrow of Viktor Yanukovych in 2014 when he refused to sign the Ukrainian-European Association Agreement (the last straw, apparently for his Western, anti-Russian opponents).  Wikipedia has:

EXTRACT ...   FROM:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych

I am troubled by the coercion and the deadly violence that was used to get his removal when the guy was elected in a free and fair process, according to international observers (Wikipedia), only four years before.  Yet, again, my comrades and compatriots and lovers of all things West IS Best, are only too prepared to use the wrong means to get a good end.  However, was it a good end when it led to Russia taking back Crimea after a vote which they easily won because Crimea is overwhelmingly more Russian than any other nationality?

Was it such a good end when it started the violent separatists from Russia off on a low key war in E Ukraine ever since?  14,000 dead in 8 years.  Hardly low-key.

Was this really proper self-determination when a group of over-enthusiastic, coercive, violent, Western oriented people forcibly removed a President free and fairly elected in 2010?  Yet, again we see it is us lovely lot in the West turning to violence, intimidation and forcible removal from office while talking about how very democratic and righteous and angelic we all are!  As hypocritical as B Johnson Esq and his immoral government.

Was it such a brilliant end when we talk up war and are treating Ukraine as already part of the EU and NATO with all our weapons and support and morale boosting rhetoric, without them even being officially a member of the EU, let alone NATO? 

Why can't our side wait for elections to decide matters?  I've given up on elections, anyway and try and get what I want by persuasion and personal propaganda, as here, below!

Tim

Ukraine Crisis to Blow Up Buffoon Boris's Importance, Power and Greatness

The Ukraine crisis is a great excuse to posture POWER and distract from our humiliating defeats in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan.

West is Best must flex its muscles to protect a future Ukraine member of nice NATO against the Evil Empire of the East.

If West is Best can't do war, we have to talk up war and sound tough and mighty POWERFUL to our evil empire of Russia and China.

We love to expand eastwards with our £3.5 billion aircraft carrier, full of American planes, to sail provocatively so close to China and Taiwan.

We love to expand our sphere of influence in the East to bring democracy, capitalism and Judeo-Christian values throughout the world.

The West loves to be Top Dog and to flex its muscles of Great Power to Russia and China.

Why did we not also offer Russia membership of nice NATO in the 90s as was talked about, apparently?!

Is it because we always must have evil enemies to justify our massive military expenditure and WMD?

Why have we never commemorated and celebrated how we would have lost the 2WW without Russia's sacrifice of 20 to 30 million of their citizens?